MasterD_Evil
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Post by MasterD_Evil on Nov 3, 2001 13:04:07 GMT -5
Ok, I'm just gonna spew out what I once heard, but I've not confirmed this myself... During Desert Storm, the guy who lead the attacks (I forgot his name, so shoot me), was asked in an interview what he had been doing... In that interview he said he had been reading one of Rommel's books (For the ignorant amongst you - which I doubt are on SD - the WW2 strategist of the Germans). In the tank assault that followed, he used the same tactic Rommel had used in WW2. Now if Iraqi intelligence had used that information, they could have predicted the US assault, I admit, they'd have been guessing, but if a general said he had been reading books of Rommel, and you know they had tanks, I'd start making a connection real quick... This would be as an example of the "not-stupid" leaders acting stupid.
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Post by pedro2112 on Nov 4, 2001 0:08:01 GMT -5
In that interview he said he had been reading one of Rommel's books (For the ignorant amongst you - which I doubt are on SD - the WW2 strategist of the Germans Speaking of 'ignorance'...... Rommel was not "the WW2 strategist of the Germans." He was a General and subsequently made Field Marshal. He was never part of the strategic staff planning the war. He was a field commander of armies. Excellent tactitian though....
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MasterD_Evil
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Post by MasterD_Evil on Nov 4, 2001 2:27:28 GMT -5
Yeah yeah
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Lord Bane
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Post by Lord Bane on Nov 4, 2001 3:14:32 GMT -5
*shoots MDE* Schwarzkopf Pedro, why not ?
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Post by Belecthor on Nov 4, 2001 3:14:54 GMT -5
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And the general that you were referring to was H. Norman Schwartzkopf.
*BANG!*
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Post by MasterD_Evil on Nov 4, 2001 3:20:05 GMT -5
Yeah, the same one LB and Bel mentioned... I knew it was the shampoo guy, but didn't want to guess.
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Post by Lord Bane on Nov 4, 2001 4:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Zoras on Nov 4, 2001 4:43:06 GMT -5
Well, one thing's becoming clear. It is indeed becoming a war against terrorism, now that the extremists and militant groups all seem to be taking sides.
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Post by Lord Bane on Nov 4, 2001 7:37:17 GMT -5
Of course they are since Bush forced them to ("Who isn't with us, is with terrorism" etc).
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Post by pedro2112 on Nov 4, 2001 22:36:37 GMT -5
Yes of course LB..... you would much prefer the extremists and militant groups to be on "your" side.
As for the anthrax, I"ve heard stories both ways. I still don't think they have a grasp on what happend and who did it.
LB... why not what?
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Post by Sylvaner on Nov 5, 2001 6:21:11 GMT -5
On the US news part : I just read in Newsweek (yes, we got that piece of crap at work) that Bin Laden's last speech was basically a green light, saying to any Al Qaeda member in the western country that they don't have to wait for a sign anymore to start acting. So my question is are we crazy or what ? Do we have the right to spread that info, giving Bin Laden the best communication network there can ever be ? Or is it a calculated risk, to make sure that every terrorist starts acting, maybe too fast, in order to locate and neutralize them. Now, on the Anthrax part : I guess that when Pedro stated "A few days ago I would have agreed with you, but not anymore." he thought about Pakistan being hit by Anthrax too... Well, I agree with Pedro. (Aaaarrghhh !!) But let's wait and see... Too bad that western people, not even extremists, are "diluting" the intelligence and police work with their hoaxes, or so called "jokes". And eventually, about the origin of Anthrax : Forgive my ignorance, but wasn't there a treaty between democracies, forbidding the developpment and use of biological weapons ? (I think so, because I know as a fact that military labs in France are officially working on "ways to stop the enemy's possible bio weapons". For this, of course, you have to imagine what weapons the enemy could develop...) If so, and even in the contrary, how do the US justify that it's on the top list of the possible origins for anthrax ? Is it possible that the US were somehow planning to use bio weapons one day or another [/1st ironical anti-american statement] Eventually, I want to let you know about a phrase I heard on the radio : "The US refused to ratify the treaty forbidding personal landmines... they might regret it soon." ***ducks and waits for comments***
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Post by Feraess on Nov 5, 2001 7:06:09 GMT -5
I think maybe Bin Laden isn't relying on CNN to distribute his orders. Just a thought Yes, there was a treaty about not developing bio-weapons, but it was not even close to being world-encompassing. It's a pity they couldn't manage one for nuclear weapons also. I'm sure this doesn't apply to all of the anthrax, but some of it was traced by matching the DNA to a lab in the US, which provided samples for many research centres around the world. Unfortunately, they weren't exactly fussy when it came to handing it out, giving samples of all kinds to an organisation in iraq which was known to be a front for Sadam Hussain. The US is at least as responsible as any other country. I doubt the US would ever have used biological weapons, since they were very much behind the treaty against them, and seemed genuine enough. Just so this doesn't seem like a compliment, might I add that it could be because they like big explosions? As for land mines: They are just another reason why the rest of the world is angered by the US's actions. Maybe this one will force some sort of preventative action by the UN eventually.
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Post by ElricMorlockin on Nov 5, 2001 11:07:22 GMT -5
Fearass, who cares what you think. (Btw...in case u r wondering, this is said in the spirit of Pedro's apology thread.... ). Sylvie, The land mine treaty wasnt signed by quite a few people. But lets be honest here, bro. How much have countries paid attention to the Geneva convention at this point in recent wars? I guarantee you that if France and Germany were to "get into it again" that your country would sow its open borders with land mines my friend, despite the fact that France may have signed on to this agreement! Gas attacks, well Iraq has tested/used its mass killing capacity against its own citizens quite a few times. Now someone like Fearass may say that the US would do this to its citizens, but I dont think that anyone intelligent here would say the same.
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Post by Lord Bane on Nov 5, 2001 12:56:56 GMT -5
I was just wondering why you have changed your mind on who's responsible for the anthrax, Pedro.
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Post by Silmarillion on Nov 5, 2001 13:05:47 GMT -5
I suppose it's possible, but as I'm sure you realize....in order to find a cure or treatment for a disease or toxin, one must actually have the disease or toxin to work with. We also have smallpox....do you really think that any sane individual would want to release that into *any* population? It would be nearly impossible to contain. I would hope that we have it so that we can find a cure, if not for smallpox, then maybe for something else.
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