Post by Kothoses the Tyrant on Nov 3, 2001 11:23:10 GMT -5
Diogenes said:
Oh please. I am getting tired of people pretending that the only two possible reactions to the WTC attack were 1) Doing nothing at all and 2) immediately calling out the military for a full scale shooting war. <br>
That position is absurd, and shows nothing but a total lack of imagination (which certainly afflicts George Bush, Jr.) and a trigger happy finger. It is apparent now that Bush Jr. had made up his mind early on to treat this conflict as a full scale military war. He wanted to play with his military toys, like his father before him in the Gulf War. <br>
Bush Sr. never seriously gave other options a chance in the Gulf War, and Bush Jr. has now followed in daddy's footsteps. I sincerely hope that Bush Jr. does not succeed in covering my country's hands in the blood of innocents to the monstrous extent that his father did. <br>
It is self serving US propaganda that the Taliban could never have been expected to negotiate for the release of Bin Laden. The evidence points otherwise. In any case, the Bush administration never seriously tried that approach. <br>
Only 28 days went by between the WTC attack and the commencent of bombing in Afghanistan. The supposed justification for the haste? That we could not afford to be patient. That was blatantly ridiculous in light of the fact that gov't and military leaders are cautioning that we must now excercise great patience in expecting the military approach to work. That is, if they can ever make up their minds as to what the objectives of the military campaign really are in the first place. <br>
People who have been blindly following Bush the idiot's approach have tended to throw up their hands and say "well, what else could we do? Show us another alternative."
WRONG!!!!!!! Listen, as the one's wanting to KILL people, the burden of proof is on YOU to show that there are no other options at all. War is the LAST resort, not one you jump into right off the bat, without exhausting other possibilities first. <br>
Ok then so what "other" options would you have eexplored Dio, the guy has been needing to be taken care of for some time he has been connected with any number of terrorist incidents and has publicly stated that he commited a lot of them.
OF course I dont want people to die, I thought I had made that totally clear with my stances before, but I was simply stateing that sometimes a line must be drawn, how much would talking accomplish, its always better if you can talk your way out of a fight, but sometimes you cant and if your going to fight then make sure you do what ever it takes to win.
No two wrongs dont make a right, but takeing the Moral high ground here is not an option I feel for everyone who is going to be left without some one dear to them, mothers who have had sons taken, sons who have lost mothers, brothers who have lost sisters, I pity every single innocent person who has sufffered or will suffer, but I refuse to belive that the Al queda would have listened to any diplomatic argument, try to remember what this is all about Dio this is a world security issue here.
Oh and Dio, dont be so absurdly NAieve as to think Osama BinLaden would have stopped just because he got a telling off from uncle Sam, Remember over here we have seen terror campaigns against our government and national interests longer than I have been alive and from a source much closer to home, would you I wonder want to put up with the loss of peoples lives to terrorists for 25 years just so you can take the moral high ground?